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Montag, 30. Juli 2007, 21:26

Greetings from Denmark! Picture update

Hello everyone!

After looking in on your forum from time to time, I decided that I would sign up and introduce myself.
My name is Chris, I’m 24, from Denmark, and I’ve been a fan of the 32B for as long as I can remember, probably because my father has been a fan since the introduction, and he persuaded my mother to get a Tornadored Trend in 1987.

This is what the Trend looked like in 2003:


And this is how it looked after my younger sister hit a Nissan Almera in 2006, it was declared a write-off by the insurance:



After getting my driving license I’ve had a few different 32B’s myself (see the signature 8) ), and after always saying that she would never have a piece of junk like that, my younger sister now also owns one.

Currenty we have 3 running 32B’s in the family, they are as follows:

My 1988 Trend, 1,8L RM with 4+E transmission, and 413.000km on the clock:


My mother’s 1987 CL, 1,6L DT with 4 speed transmission, and about 280.000km on the clock:


And finally my younger sisters 1985 GT, 1,8L DS with 4+E transmission, and about 290.000km on the clock:


Now, I just got my Trend about a month ago, and I’m getting around to fixing the little things that irritate me a bit, one of which is the fact that the lining of the sunroof is almost falling down:




I was wondering whether it is possible to remove the “lining-plate” in the pictures, without taking down the lining of the whole roof, or removing the sunroof? And if it is, how do I do it :) ?


PS: Feel free to answer in German! I can understand it pretty well, I’m just not that good at writing in German.

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Montag, 30. Juli 2007, 21:33



hmmm, ein wenig komisch geparkt hier :D Was ist mit dem Auto im Hintergrund passiert ?

erstmal herzlich willkommen hier :D


Der Himmel (headlining) ist ein wenig schwierig, ich habe auch mal versucht, das wiede ranzumachen, das war aber nicht einfach. Auf dem Himmel ist eine Art Schaum , den man nicht kleben kann... vielleicht melden sich die Himmelexperten mal zu Wort...


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Montag, 30. Juli 2007, 21:50

Ja, den Schaumstoff vom Formhimmel muss man komplett runterkratzen. Das ist zwar sehr, sehr ekelhaft, aber nicht schwierig - das Zeug löst sich ganz gut. (Das ist ja das Problem mit den Himmels.)

Dann lässt sich neuer Stoff einfach aufkleben. Als Klebstoff empfehle ich UHU Flinke Flasche, in der Kindergartenversion (auf Wasserbasis). Ich habe wirklich alles probiert, nicht einmal Pflaumenmus und Fliesenkleber habe ich ausgelassen. UHU ist am problemlosesten.

Wenn man allerdings sehr dünnen oder leichten Stoff nimmt, kann der Kleber leicht durchnässen und dann unschöne Flecken hinterlassen. Also am besten nur die Formteil-Seite dünn einstreichen und den Stoff nicht zu fest anpressen.

Jetzt möchte ich aber auch wissen, warum der rote Passat so schräg parkt...

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Montag, 30. Juli 2007, 21:51

The car in the background drove out in front of a car which was travelling in front of my sister, and when they collided, my sister panicked a bit, and “parked” in the ditch. No-one was seriously injured though. The worst part was that it cost about 100 euro to get “unparked”:rolleyes: .




And I was kind of afraid that fiddling with the sunroof wasn’t very easy, we’ll see if someone has a great trick up his sleeve :D

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Montag, 30. Juli 2007, 21:58

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Ja, den Schaumstoff vom Formhimmel muss man komplett runterkratzen. Das ist zwar sehr, sehr ekelhaft, aber nicht schwierig - das Zeug löst sich ganz gut. (Das ist ja das Problem mit den Himmels.)

Dann lässt sich neuer Stoff einfach aufkleben. Als Klebstoff empfehle ich UHU Flinke Flasche, in der Kindergartenversion (auf Wasserbasis). Ich habe wirklich alles probiert, nicht einmal Pflaumenmus und Fliesenkleber habe ich ausgelassen. UHU ist am problemlosesten.

Wenn man allerdings sehr dünnen oder leichten Stoff nimmt, kann der Kleber leicht durchnässen und dann unschöne Flecken hinterlassen. Also am besten nur die Formteil-Seite dünn einstreichen und den Stoff nicht zu fest anpressen.

Jetzt möchte ich aber auch wissen, warum der rote Passat so schräg parkt...


If I understand correctly, you're talking about the lining of the whole roof (Formhimmel), but that's in good condition in my car, I would just like to get the "square" under the sunroof out, without having to take apart the whole car ;)

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Montag, 30. Juli 2007, 22:46

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If I understand correctly, you're talking about the lining of the whole roof (Formhimmel), but that's in good condition in my car, I would just like to get the "square" under the sunroof out, without having to take apart the whole car ;)


Umm... indeed, I do. Concerning your special problem, I have no answer since my Passats do not have sunroofs. But maybe my hints might become helpful the very moment you managed to unmount that sunroof part.

But I know that your problem is very common, I'm sure someone will come up who knows a solution. We would be glad to hear from you if you found one on your own!

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Dienstag, 31. Juli 2007, 00:11

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If I understand correctly, you're talking about the lining of the whole roof (Formhimmel), but that's in good condition in my car, I would just like to get the "square" under the sunroof out, without having to take apart the whole car ;)


Hi and greetings to denmark.
Well, to get the headlining of the sunroof out, you have to disassemble the whole sunroof, the inner part with the headliner is the last part of the sunroof to be taken out of the car, everything else goes out before the lining...
If you are interested, I could mail you original Volxwagen repair manual for the sunroof.
Cheers from Hannover
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Dienstag, 31. Juli 2007, 07:19

i had this problem before, and also on the small inner headlining there is foam underneath.... since then i prefer non-sunroof cars :D

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Dienstag, 31. Juli 2007, 08:24

also am besten gehts, wenn man das Schiebedach und die Innenverkleidung des Schiebedachs komplett ausbaut.
Ich weiß wie es geht aber das nun auf Englisch hinzubekommen..... uh uh...

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Dienstag, 31. Juli 2007, 10:08

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Umm... indeed, I do. Concerning your special problem, I have no answer since my Passats do not have sunroofs. But maybe my hints might become helpful the very moment you managed to unmount that sunroof part.

But I know that your problem is very common, I'm sure someone will come up who knows a solution. We would be glad to hear from you if you found one on your own!


I’ve taken a closer look at the problem, and you’re right, it’s the stupid foam that’s completely dissolved, strange that it's only happened on the sunroof – I’ll need to find somewhere to get UHU in Denmark, if I ever get the sunroof-lining down :)

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Hi and greetings to denmark.
Well, to get the headlining of the sunroof out, you have to disassemble the whole sunroof, the inner part with the headliner is the last part of the sunroof to be taken out of the car, everything else goes out before the lining...
If you are interested, I could mail you original Volxwagen repair manual for the sunroof.
Cheers from Hannover
Hardy


Yikes, taking out the whole sunroof… It just went a bit further down on my to do list, but I’d be grateful to get the VW repair manual! then at least I could do a proper risk/benefit assessment of the operation :D

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i had this problem before, and also on the small inner headlining there is foam underneath.... since then i prefer non-sunroof cars :D


Hehe, well… I do see what you mean, and the sunroof also doesn’t help the headroom-situation when you’re a good 2 meters tall (good thing the Trend has the height adjustable driver’s seat), but it is really nice to pop up the roof when it’s 30 degrees C, and the original roof is sooo much nicer than the glassroof someone along the way decided to install in my sisters car 8)

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also am besten gehts, wenn man das Schiebedach und die Innenverkleidung des Schiebedachs komplett ausbaut.
Ich weiß wie es geht aber das nun auf Englisch hinzubekommen..... uh uh...

Wer ist gut hier in Englisch?


Don't worry, German is fine ;)

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i had this problem before, and also on the small inner headlining there is foam underneath.... since then i prefer non-sunroof cars



Zitat


Hehe, well… I do see what you mean, and the sunroof also doesn’t help the headroom-situation when you’re a good 2 meters tall (good thing the Trend has the height adjustable driver’s seat), but it is really nice to pop up the roof when it’s 30 degrees C, and the original roof is sooo much nicer than the glassroof someone along the way decided to install in my sisters car



then you shouldn't buy a Scirocco :



i can only use it with the sunroof wide open :D

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Dienstag, 31. Juli 2007, 17:31

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then you shouldn't buy a Scirocco :



i can only use it with the sunroof wide open :D


That reminds me of when I took my driving licence, my instructor had a BMW 320, and I could drive that thing with my whole head sticking out through the sunroof 8o

Beautiful Scirocco by the way!! I love the color and the wheels!

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Samstag, 18. August 2007, 16:47

hello from scotland.
nice passats. i hope that other red one got out of the ditch ok. how did it get there? in the early 90s my parents had a 1986 red estate just like that, although i dont really remember it at all.
glenn

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Samstag, 18. August 2007, 22:36

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hello from scotland.
nice passats. i hope that other red one got out of the ditch ok. how did it get there? in the early 90s my parents had a 1986 red estate just like that, although i dont really remember it at all.
glenn


Hi, and thanks :) - The car got out of the ditch with almost no damage (smashed headlight and punctured front-tire) – It got in the ditch because two cars travelling in front of my sister collided, and she panicked and drove it into the ditch :rolleyes:

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Dienstag, 21. August 2007, 19:44

Hello everybody

I’ve been making a few small modifications to my sister’s and my car. I thought I’d post them to maybe give others a good idea.

Background:
Ever since my sister got her car, she’s been talking about “upgrading” the original speakers (she says she wants better audio-quality, but all she really wants is to play LOUD :rolleyes: ) – anyway, she wanted to cut holes in the front doorcards to mount larger speakers. I tried talking her out of it, because I generally think it’s a shame to do things that can’t be reversed (such as cutting holes in doorcards). But fortunately, the speakers she got were 6x9” (3” deep) which meant that mounting them in the doorcards really wasn’t a viable option anyway. Therefore the idea of a parcel-shelf in a 32B variant with LRA (?) was born and realized:

First, a piece of MDF-plate was cut to fit the width of the LRA-rails. The depth was “limited” (by my sister) to 28cm, which from an acoustic point of view may be a bit on she small side, but she didn’t want the shelf to take up any more room than necessary.




We had to take a bit of the thickness of the plate, to make a snug fit in the rails. (we used 12mm MDF, and ended up removing about 1mm)






Then the holes for the speakers were cut out:




As you can imagine, the vertical strength of the shelf was very poor (the whole thing bounced easily up and down) so to eliminate that problem, a “beam” was added below the shelf, this also makes the shelf look much better, as it covers the bottom of the speakers. Note that the edge of the shelf has also been rounded with a router.




The shelf was covered with some sort of carpet my sister got from a car-supplies store.




When the shelf was covered with carpet, it looked like this:




And badabing badabum, speakers in the parcel-shelf of a variant:







Now, the change to my car; some time ago my father was bragging about how nice the comfort-blinker in the new Transporter he drives at work is – so I couldn’t resist trying it out for myself 8) - unfortunately I didn’t think of taking any pictures until all that was left was the empty box and the manual :(



but it works like a charm, and I actually really enjoy having it.


Finally, I attended a family birthday this Sunday, and couldn’t resist taking a few pictures :D






Best regards
Chris

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Dienstag, 21. August 2007, 19:49

top-job with the parcel shelf ! I know how (some) women are.... the most important thing is the ICE at the car :D But well done, a reversible solution... i have to work something out with the winter hatchback....

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Dienstag, 21. August 2007, 20:22

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top-job with the parcel shelf ! I know how (some) women are.... the most important thing is the ICE at the car :D But well done, a reversible solution... i have to work something out with the winter hatchback....


Thanks - and yeah, some women are really getting in to cars these days, just look at some of the subtle accessories you can buy in Denmark :D:

http://www.bilbix.dk/minxy.html

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Dienstag, 21. August 2007, 20:43

OMG





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woher kommst du aus Dänemark :)


I come from Nyborg, which is on Fyn (Fünen) - if you've ever driven across Denmark, you might simply know it as one of the ends of the big bridge http://www.storebaelt.dk/kollage/broen/broenfakta ;)

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